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 | magoo2
Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7 reno 
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2004-03-07 79139
I've got 300+ vinyl fence posts to install, dealer is trying to sell me a shaver 9" digger to go on the back of a bx23. Fairly rocky soil here in the great state of Nevada, any comments? thanks
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-03-07 79181
I live in right next door in CC.
I had a PHD that I am selling. Just couldn't find the right soil type on my hillside to make use of the PHD.
I set my first 600 feet of fence posts with the backhoe on my BX 22 and have more to go.
If you are down on the valley floor, in pasture land, it might work for you as long as you are prepared to deal with the rocks by hand.
I think your backhoe is the ultimate fence post weapon, but I can also make you one heck of a deal on a slightly used Gearmore PHD. ....
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| HuckMeat
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 121 Colorado
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2004-03-07 79182
When setting posts using a backhoe, don't you usually have soil disruption problems??? Do you compact by hand, or set your posts in concrete? Inquiring minds want to know! ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley
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2004-03-08 79217
How PHA's work sure does depend on soil. Mine works OK on the sand and small rocks here as long as I have a good supply of shear bolts, a long heavy tempered prybar and a clam shell hand digger. I do have to break up larger rocks and take out the chunks. More big rocks and I'd probably use a hoe.
I had to do quite a bit of filling and compacting for 4" posts with my 12" PHA and I think a hoe would make even bigger holes. The fence is still straight and vertical though and the filling and tamping wasn't too bad. I think concrete makes wood posts rot faster many places since the concrete holds moisture although mine are cedar and would likely outlast me even in a swamp. Concrete also has to be dug out to replace a post. It would take quite a bit of it for a long fence too and boy is that stuff heavy. ....
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| DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada
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2004-03-08 79225
The term "fence post" covers a lot of ground. I my case, the property is thirty years old and the "look" was established long before I bought it.
That said.... my fence posts are old railroad ties. I put 3 feet in the ground and have 5 feet above. They do require compaction to stay put especially in the sandy areas. I use a 18 pound steel tamping rod to set them.
After a few weeks, you can't pull they back up without digging all around them. If you space them every 20 feet and string your choice of wire between them, you will end up with a very economical way to fence large areas. ....
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